win.gg
Win.gg Dota 2 Puppey vs. N0tail: Who is Dota 2’s greatest player of all time?

Puppey vs. N0tail: Who is Dota 2's greatest player of all time?

Author Icon
William Davis Published 29/06/2021

Unlike most other esports, Dota 2 has never had a clear best player of all time. There is a shortlist of names however, with the top two being Clement “Puppey” Ivanov and Johan “N0tail” Sundstein.

Dota 2 is an esport ruled by elite players with over a decade of experience. Two Dota 2 veterans have elevated themselves to the very pinnacle of the game, and stand tall at the top of the mountain. Puppey and N0tail have each succeeded in different ways, but which one truly deserves the GOAT title?

N0tail’s argument is simple at face value, captaining the first-ever two-time The International champions. But the full argument is even stronger than that.

OG entered The International 2018 as qualifier underdogs with a mid laner who had never played on LAN. Repeating the feat at The International 2019, and earning a combined $5,370,867 from just two tournaments, cemented N0tail as the immediately recognizable GOAT of Dota 2. It’s easy to overlook N0tail’s other achievements in the wake of such unprecedented success, but those are far from his only Valve trophies. 

But while N0tail’s peaks undoubtedly beat Puppey’s, it’s impossible to overstate the Estonian mastermind’s consistency. The Team Secret captain has played at the very highest level of Dota 2 for the entirety of the game’s existence. 14 years of Dota 2 has produced 55 championships, five majors, and $2,887,274 in prize money. While only N0tail and OG have two The International championships, it’s also important to remember that Puppey captained the first TI-winning team.

 

When it comes to mechanical skills, N0tail wins out due to his earlier tenure as a mid-laner and carry. For years, N0tail’s Meepo was among the scariest heroes in Dota 2. N0tail was also a highly successful carry player, a role he took on when Anathan “ana” Pham first joined the OG roster. N0tail’s micro skills are so godlike that he once piloted both Tiny and Io to a victory after Andreas Franck “Cr1t-” Nielsen disconnected from a 2015 tournament match.

Puppey is no slouch in the micro department, either. While N0tail’s Meepo was the scariest core pick, Puppey’s Chen was the first phase nightmare for anyone drafting against Natus Vincere. He leveraged that skill to create Team Secret, where Chen, Enchantress, and Enigma form the basis of his drafting philosophy.

Speaking of drafting, Puppey is the absolute king of turning the pick screen into a minefield. The Team Secret name was founded on Puppey’s ability to herd the enemy into one strategy, then counter-pick them. This has seen Puppey historically look to play with versatile teammates. At Puppey’s discretion, Yeik “MidOne” Nai Zheng, Artour “Arteezy” Babaev, and even N0tail himself enjoyed runs at the top with Team Secret.

Then again, N0tail’s off-meta style and willingness to take risks are what earned him two International titles. N0tail is the drunken master of Dota 2, inventing and executing insane strategies to catch opponents off guard. Before the TI victories, OG won four Majors in just two years thanks to daring drafts, clever counter-plays, and meta-shattering tactics. And of course, as OG’s captain, he helped develop the voice line spam that’s become a hallmark of pro Dota 2.   

Let’s look at both player’s trophy cabinets.

Puppey’s Dota 2 achievements

N0tail’s Dota 2 achievements

The battle for the title of “Greatest Dota 2 Player of all Time” still isn’t clear. Puppey against N0tail is a battle of consistency versus peak performance. For every second of Dota 2’s release, Puppey has been among Dota 2’s elites. From his early days on Natus Vincere to the modern Team Secret dynasty, few have been able to challenge Puppey’s Dota 2 IQ.  But if greatness is quantified by earnings, N0tail isn’t just the best Dota 2 player of all time. He’s the greatest esports pro who has ever lived across any game. The double-TI-winning OG roster are the five richest esports pros in history, and N0tail leads by $500,000 thanks to four DPC majors. 

Both men still have some competition on their heels, however. Team Nigma captain Kuro “KuroKy” Salehi Takhasomi shares much of Puppey’s resume and boasts an Aegis from The International 2017. Chinese support legend Xu “fy” Linsen on Elephant could make a strong case for himself. Some Dota 2 fans would certainly still make an argument for Danil “Dendi” Ishutin. PSG.LGD’s Zhang “y`” Yiping and Zhang “Faith_bian” Ruida could also join the hunt if they become two-time TI champions later this year.

Regardless of the current opinion, both players still have time to add to their claim. Another round of success for OG could push N0tail over the top. One more Aegis would stifle almost any argument against Puppey. Team Secret is already guaranteed to appear at The International 10. OG will have to qualify for TI10 through the Western European qualifier starting on July 7.

William Davis
About William Davis

View full profile
Read Also
Team Yandex stop the magic, defeating LGD in BLAST Slam VII finals Dota 2
Team Yandex stop the magic, defeating LGD in BLAST Slam VII finals Michael Hassall Team Yandex have defeated LGD Gaming in the grand finals of BLAST Slam VII in a dramatic 3-1 series that saw both teams pushed to the limit, but ultimately Yandex come out on top. Concluding the last major tournament before teams head to the Esports World Cup and The International 2026 next month and in August, Yandex were able to counter the momentum of LGD that had brought them into ...
BLAST Slam VII Finals Predictions and Picks – Can LGD make it all the way? Dota 2
BLAST Slam VII Finals Predictions and Picks – Can LGD make it all the way? Michael Hassall LGD Gaming in the top three of a tournament!? What is this 2021? BLAST Slam VII has been one of the most surprising tournaments of the year, and has capped off the pre-EWC and TI season with some of the most thrilling gameplay we’ve seen in months. And the finals are set to be even more exciting. With just three teams left there’s a lot on the line, from the ...
Easiest Dota 2 Heroes for Beginners – Best Picks to Learn the Game Dota 2
Easiest Dota 2 Heroes for Beginners – Best Picks to Learn the Game Simon Day We can all agree that Dota 2 is a complex game, but starting with the right heroes can make the learning process much smoother. Choosing one of the best Dota 2 heroes for beginners is key to building your skills and enjoying your matches. That’s why it’s time to explore the heroes that are easy to understand, effective in the game and great for learning the fundamentals. Without going into ...
BLAST Slam VII Playoffs Preview – Visa issues transform the playoff picture Dota 2
BLAST Slam VII Playoffs Preview – Visa issues transform the playoff picture Michael Hassall BLAST Slam VII is the last major tournament before teams lock-in and compete at the EWC and The International, and as a result, we’re seeing a tournament with some unique outcomes. With teams seemingly treating this as a last-minute tune-up before the championship clashes of the next two months, a South American team has topped the table and some of the best teams in the world are either without players ...
TI-Champions Tundra Esports exit Dota 2 as roster transfers to 1win Dota 2
TI-Champions Tundra Esports exit Dota 2 as roster transfers to 1win Michael Hassall Tundra Esports has revealed it’s leaving Dota 2 after six years and a victory at The International 2022. The UK-based organization has announced its roster will transfer directly to 1win for future events. The announcement, posted on Tundra's socials on June 1, confirms rumors and earlier social posts from 1win which hinted at a new lineup. With the move, however, questions about 1win’s existing EEU roster and attendance at The ...
A full weekend of TI15 tickets will cost you just $280 – If you don’t mind the view Dota 2
A full weekend of TI15 tickets will cost you just $280 – If you don’t mind the view Michael Hassall Alongside the team invites for The International 2026, Valve today (May 26) unveiled the pricing and details of how to purchase tickets for TI15, and the price is the lowest in years. For years we’ve seen the price of The International Prize, with a peak of around $700 as a lowest price for a full weekend for both 2023 in Seattle, and 2024 in Copenhagen. But after a fall in ...
Valve has announced the TI15 invites: Here’s why some team names are very different Dota 2
Valve has announced the TI15 invites: Here’s why some team names are very different Michael Hassall It’s around three months until The International 2026, TI15, and Valve has just unveiled the direct invites and qualifier invites to the event, but eagle-eyed fans will notice some strange names in the team lists. Valve unveiled the invites in the small hours of the morning on May 26 (late evening on May 25 for their HQ in Bellevue, Washington), detailing the seven direct invites, regional qualifier invites, and some ...